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		<title>Comment on Women in Tech by Helen</title>
		<link>http://www.helioscope.co.uk/39/women-in-tech#comment-62</link>
		<author>Helen</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 15:42:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.helioscope.co.uk/39/women-in-tech#comment-62</guid>
		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks for your comment, Ravi.  I think positive discrimination is very damaging to those asking for equality in any arena.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your comment, Ravi.  I think positive discrimination is very damaging to those asking for equality in any arena.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Women in Tech by Ravi Mohan</title>
		<link>http://www.helioscope.co.uk/39/women-in-tech#comment-61</link>
		<author>Ravi Mohan</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 15:21:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.helioscope.co.uk/39/women-in-tech#comment-61</guid>
		<description>"Although I would be very happy to see more women in technical fields, I’m certainly not advocating a policy of positive discrimination for women. I think that introducing more women, regardless of their level of skill, would be defeating the purpose. We need to prove that women can be service engineers and technicians and programmers, and we need to do it by being good at our jobs"

Amen! Thank you for advocating a logical position that makes sense!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Although I would be very happy to see more women in technical fields, I’m certainly not advocating a policy of positive discrimination for women. I think that introducing more women, regardless of their level of skill, would be defeating the purpose. We need to prove that women can be service engineers and technicians and programmers, and we need to do it by being good at our jobs&#8221;</p>
<p>Amen! Thank you for advocating a logical position that makes sense!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Women in Tech by Helen</title>
		<link>http://www.helioscope.co.uk/39/women-in-tech#comment-60</link>
		<author>Helen</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 14:36:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.helioscope.co.uk/39/women-in-tech#comment-60</guid>
		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks for your comment - my first one!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I probably need to be clearer: I don't believe that we, as women, have to change,  I meant that as an industry, we need to concentrate on motivating women into Computer Science.  In the UK, the numbers of women entering CS courses at university is falling (&lt;a href="http://www.ics.heacademy.ac.uk/Events/conf2001/papers/Carter.htm" rel="nofollow"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/working_lunch/4418820.stm" rel="nofollow"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;), and every so often, when this is brought up in mainstream or tech press, someone usually suggests that CS courses/tech jobs need to be tailored towards women's interests, which I find very annoying. When I was a kid I was taking apart plugs and playing on my Commodore Amiga, and I wouldn't have been any more or less interested if they were painted pink and plastered with kittens!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I think that women in tech fields need to do 2 things: get our heads down and continue to make those contributions to tech fields that you mention in the comments to your post, and continue to improve and make attractive the idea of CS and related fields for women. I love my job; there is probably no other area I could work in that I would enjoy so much, and that’s probably the best argument I (personally) can make to girls and women to persuade them to go down a similar path.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your comment - my first one!</p>
<p>I probably need to be clearer: I don&#8217;t believe that we, as women, have to change,  I meant that as an industry, we need to concentrate on motivating women into Computer Science.  In the UK, the numbers of women entering CS courses at university is falling (<a href="http://www.ics.heacademy.ac.uk/Events/conf2001/papers/Carter.htm" rel="nofollow">here</a> and <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/working_lunch/4418820.stm" rel="nofollow">here</a>), and every so often, when this is brought up in mainstream or tech press, someone usually suggests that CS courses/tech jobs need to be tailored towards women&#8217;s interests, which I find very annoying. When I was a kid I was taking apart plugs and playing on my Commodore Amiga, and I wouldn&#8217;t have been any more or less interested if they were painted pink and plastered with kittens!</p>
<p>I think that women in tech fields need to do 2 things: get our heads down and continue to make those contributions to tech fields that you mention in the comments to your post, and continue to improve and make attractive the idea of CS and related fields for women. I love my job; there is probably no other area I could work in that I would enjoy so much, and that’s probably the best argument I (personally) can make to girls and women to persuade them to go down a similar path.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Women in Tech by Shelley</title>
		<link>http://www.helioscope.co.uk/39/women-in-tech#comment-59</link>
		<author>Shelley</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 13:27:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.helioscope.co.uk/39/women-in-tech#comment-59</guid>
		<description>Think about what you just said, about the attitudes displayed when you've dealt with male techs, and then you end your post with we women have to change.

People have been saying for two decades exactly what you're saying -- we have to instill confidence in women, we have to encourage women. Nothing about the men, and nothing about how the field, itself, has problems. 

No it is always up to us to change. How bloody convenient for the guys  when we women don't once think to ourselves -- you know, maybe the guys needs to change. Hey, maybe even the field needs work.

That's not making it 'girly'. That's making it sound.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Think about what you just said, about the attitudes displayed when you&#8217;ve dealt with male techs, and then you end your post with we women have to change.</p>
<p>People have been saying for two decades exactly what you&#8217;re saying &#8212; we have to instill confidence in women, we have to encourage women. Nothing about the men, and nothing about how the field, itself, has problems. </p>
<p>No it is always up to us to change. How bloody convenient for the guys  when we women don&#8217;t once think to ourselves &#8212; you know, maybe the guys needs to change. Hey, maybe even the field needs work.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s not making it &#8216;girly&#8217;. That&#8217;s making it sound.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Supporting Users is Like Learning a New Language by No, Really - I Love You: Five Ways to Get Along in Customer Service at helioscope</title>
		<link>http://www.helioscope.co.uk/19/19#comment-3</link>
		<author>No, Really - I Love You: Five Ways to Get Along in Customer Service at helioscope</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 15:21:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.helioscope.co.uk/19/19#comment-3</guid>
		<description>[...] I could devote a whole book (or at least a novelette) to my beliefs on this, and I wrote a post about it, but it boils down to this: if the article above sums up your views about your users or [...]</description>
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